I'm sort of surprised it took Jev for everyone to realize "oh yeah, this is a useful thing that we should have in our product portfolio".
But maybe this is one of those things that's only obvious in retrospect? I'm sure people were trying something similar years ago with grammar-constrained outputs (for example to only output a simple json structure), but you can't get probabilities out of the model that way. Which makes me wonder: how do these models calculate probabilities?
eminence32
The best decision model I have used (besides Jev itself) is respan/span-02, which is based on (finetuned from?) Gemma 4 26A4. That makes me optimistic for this release, despite the high cost.
theanonymousone
Its bit more expensive than other other Decision Models in the same lane.
However, it can accept Audio and Video as input as well and for those specific cases it can be extremely useful.
waximabbax
Surprised how close all these models are on the benchmarks
wasabi991011
There’s also this guide by google to use embedding gemma 2 as a decision maker. Wonder how these compare.
Google ensuring “share of wallet” from their existing customer base with a solid but not great “we do it too” product, priced to capitalise on risk and change aversion.
Standard practice by the big G.
holografix
So is it over for Jev now that the big boys are in the game
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But maybe this is one of those things that's only obvious in retrospect? I'm sure people were trying something similar years ago with grammar-constrained outputs (for example to only output a simple json structure), but you can't get probabilities out of the model that way. Which makes me wonder: how do these models calculate probabilities?
eminence32
theanonymousone
However, it can accept Audio and Video as input as well and for those specific cases it can be extremely useful.
waximabbax
wasabi991011
https://developers.google.com/edge/mediapipe/solutions/decis...
abhikul0
londons_explore
vesterde
kaycebasques
Standard practice by the big G.
holografix
pratzc07